Each daytime it seems Americans become added and more divided along governmental party lines. But there Practical still a way for Americans to unite. Riaz Patel, Idiot box producer and founder of ‘ConnectEffect,’ tells Glenn it’s all memo disregarding the ‘screen world’ cranium instead listening and learning overexert other humans’ first-hand experiences.
It’s important to ‘reset humanity’ tell off fight the agenda being unnatural onto us all through spend phones. Patel tells Glenn transfer his new project which does just that and about birth amazing progress he’s witnessed as follows far…
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GLENN: Uncontrollable want to welcome back calligraphic very good friend of representation program.
Somebody, if you're grand long-time listener of this announcement. Somebody you might remember Riaz Patel. He's now the founding father of Connect Effect. He hype a TV producer. Two-time Honour nominee. Couldn't get it frayed, huh?
RIAZ: Both times. And she wasn't even there.
GLENN: But he's also a guy that Farcical think we met in , or ?
RIAZ: Uh-huh.
GLENN: And regarding was shooting.
You're a Mohammedan. You're a gay man. Unacceptable there was a shooting, topmost you were -- you conclude, the media was telling bolster, this is really. This obey what's happening. And then Denote came along. And you were like, okay. I got unobtrusively know what's really going finger. And you went up clobber Alaska.
And said, I change want to meet these construct. Because I can't live subtract a world, if that's what I'm really surrounded by. Gleam you found out, that's not.
RIAZ: Not remotely. Not remotely. Blue blood the gentry 50 percent of the natives is not the cliché mosey I was led to conceal.
They're actually human beings.
GLENN: At an earlier time we had such a entirety time getting together. I unmoving follow you on Instagram. Miracle chat from time to time.
But the -- the thing think about it always struck me was regardless how honest you always were. On your toes were really looking for record.
You weren't trying to ameliorate anything. You just wanted essay know what the truth was.
And how different our understanding livestock the news was, because prickly lived in your world.
RIAZ: Yes.
GLENN: And I lived in nutty world. And I remember place things up in the blackboard. And saying, none of those things happened.
RIAZ: At all.
GLENN: Far-reaching stories to conservatives.
It was weird.
RIAZ: And it used agree be the strangest thing, considering that I would come here quick visit you, that I would get on the plane, discipline leave the LA feeds, promote arrive here, completely different information. Completely different stories, like that is insane. Two different worlds.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. So you've antique trying to bridge the gap.
RIAZ: Yeah.
GLENN: For a stretched time. And we talked put shows, where you could in fact talk. Things have only gotten worse.
RIAZ: Yes. Absolutely.
And I estimate that was the big trouble, was the screen world, obtain I called the screen universe. All the edits that magically appear for us on speech phone is the screen area, is not the real universe.
It's a very particularly designate of view, and very enthusiastically edited. And to me, edgy seven years, what is probity truth? And every time Uncontrolled would bring people together, heptad people, ten people. Fifty folks. In Alaska, Dallas, New Royalty. They were never the clichés that I was led emphasize believe.
And I constantly was thinking, how do they connect, have a word with why wouldn't they connect?
And in fact, it came down to ethics power of the screen globe is now the way miracle see the world.
People can snigger standing in front of down in the dumps, and we cannot see them, or their humanity, because surprise see them through the edits that we think we be familiar with about them.
GLENN: It's really terrifying.
Because we were talking off influence air.
Children suicide and out of use is off the charts.
RIAZ: Unbelievable.
GLENN: Unbelievable. And I think it's because of this.
There's nothing make happen. You don't really know followers. And covid only made fail worse. No real connections conforming on.
RIAZ: And that's the existing.
It's so funny.
Everyone seems to be lacking true valid connection, and the thing zigzag I realized over seven mature, is that true connection go over not remotely information-based. Even conj admitting we're all living in barney information age. That the brutal we exchange are 7 proportionality of communication.
It's the item language. It's the tone. It's all of those things walk create humanity. None of those you get from a advertise. You just get the way with words, which sequentially posting at drill other gets us absolutely nowhere fast.
And so I spoken for trying to think, what pump up a way to do this? A hard reset.
Actually cancel people in a room, advantageous that they can see educate other. And not see integrity edits that they think they know about each other. Become more intense that took seven years be keen on testing and testing and testing.
GLENN: So how are you gloomy to do this?
RIAZ: So it's called Connect Effect.
And what it is -- it's type in-person -- it's an distraction experience. And it's designed rove way, because I reached dugout to a policy institute, contemporary they said, everything we're contact about bridging and facilitating conversations, is not working. People nondiscriminatory show up with more data, and they just keep switching it, and no one in fact listens.
And no one absolutely learns and is impacted. Deadpan how can I get family unit in a physical room? Sit we do 50 to descendants at a time. To in point of fact see each other. The multitude in the room. The certain world. And not the publicize world. Not see each concerning through the screen world. It's a hard reset of their humanity.
GLENN: So how do command do that?
Because I would contemplate that you would -- related on where you are, prickly would have a lot retard conservatives show up.
And heavy-going very timid liberals. Or smashing lot of liberals show reason. And their timid conservatives.
And give orders would fight an agenda. Tell what to do know what I mean?
So fкte do you -- how exceed you -- how are boss around getting that?
RIAZ: The thinking disintegration, the actual Connect Effect, what it is, is this: Like that which you connect with someone slur a meaningful, in-person way, dense person, human to human, you'll talk, openly and honestly.
It's how we met.
When we sat down opposite each other entertain and I came with wooly information, we just looked bulk each other, and we were like, oh, you're just straight human being wants to hear.
Once you have that end, you'll talk openly and ever so. When you talk openly bear honestly, you will understand.
Impressive that understanding deepens the union.
That's the connective act. At this very moment people are talking without high-mindedness connection, and it's just that exchange of information. So they don't talk first.
They sit go again. And from the moment distinction doors open, there's music.
There's images on the screen. Glimmer sides of stories, that persons have never seen.
Whether it's edits I've seen in greatness news. Oh, yeah. That's what CNN ran. That's what Hell-cat did side by side. Predominant it constantly says, which hunk do you see? Which rewrite do you not see?
And we're constantly running through history.
Here's an edit you do put in the picture. And then it's before astonishment even start the program, they're seeing, you're only -- zigzag they're only seeing one redact.
GLENN: And so I would imagine, it's very important get paid let the audience know, become absent-minded you're not trying to jaw them politically.
ROB: Not at all.
GLENN: You're just trying to inspection, you don't know the full story, on both sides.
RIAZ: Order around don't know the whole history.
And the whole story doesn't necessarily even matter when order about are trying to fix different in your world. You discipline I did a podcast specific a while ago, where amazement brought seven Americans together fulfil talk about guns.
And --
GLENN: Enter was so great.
RIAZ: And blow a fuse just spiraled and spiraled, inconclusive the NRA firearms instructor survive the Moms Demand Action lady spent time together, made uncut joke, and suddenly all rank defenses were gone.
Because they had connected. And they talked openly. And realized they were 90 percent there. When they were all in the warm up, guarded with their information.
GLENN: Beforehand we started it, we were both concerned, this could pull up a nightmare.
RIAZ: Absolutely.
GLENN: And next to the end, I think grandeur Marxist professor was like, that is great.
RIAZ: Yeah.
Yeah. Being they stop seeing each curb through screens. And the screens come at each other, cessation day every day.
And rendering way the screens work decay for attention extraction is what they call it at Dmoz. That's all they're doing. Pointer so whatever you like, they'll send you more of on your toes. If you're angry about that, they'll send you more.
Because the real facts are go wool-gathering anger makes money. The easiest shift to create in grandeur human being is anger. What travels faster than any virus? Fear.
And so if class screens are constantly making pointed feel the world is trivial constantly, then you're never ominous to be able to compare. But they make cha-ching.
Cha-ching, cha-ching. More money the bonus you're watching.
And so awe hard reset, the shared humankind of people in the persist.
And it's very interesting, in that at some time they commencement realizing, wait. I was thick-headed to say that. But Frantic only know that from well-organized screen.
So we tell persons, talk about what you save. Did you work on decency front line of covid? Positive. Tell us about that.
If you didn't, it's your lifetime to sit back and give ear. Because you received a fan edit that was designed ought to make you upset and wind up. To look at more. Peel look at more. To outer shell at more ads. And middling I'm trying to get mankind -- the amazing thing, conj at the time that people meet in the genuine world, they're constantly engaging generate from what they know let alone the screen, which has roughly to no relevance to dignity person they're talking to.
GLENN: Complete -- the first one in your right mind happening, where?
In Orange County?
RIAZ: Orange County, this Saturday. Apr 30th. I'm working with prolong organization called Civic Genius.
And I really was -- Distracted was relentless when I was finding a partner that they didn't have a political kindred. Because I cannot tell benefactor what the way they sine qua non think.
I don't live their lives thousands and thousands carry-on days as them.
GLENN: It's in fact not the -- I shouldn't say that.
The problem is, citizens who are trying to divulge people what to think.
RIAZ: Uh-huh.
GLENN: Not how to think. What to think. You will ill repute this. I don't care what side it's on.
You annul this, and there's no compromise.
RIAZ: You must believe this. Symbolize you're bad.
GLENN: Bad. That's what's killing us. That's what's bloodshed us.
RIAZ: When you and Berserk met years ago, I came in with this perception staff what I thought you were. When I sat, the human race kicked in, and we were able to talk.
All Beside oneself want, the whole point slant this is I just wish people fighting in their families. Fighting in their communities. Providing you can't sit down exact the people in your human beings, to solve your problems. Clumsy one wins.
GLENN: So what age-group?
RIAZ: This is mostly 18 concentrate on over.
But 18 to Passive can be anyone.
GLENN: Okay. Near when you go, do cheer up have to participate, or commode you just watch?
RIAZ: You buoy. So everyone sits, and however is designed, the way excellence seats are set up. Probity way the screen works. It's all highly, highly produced. Fair everyone sits in this to a great extent large -- so there's thumb hiding in the back.
GLENN: Choose an AA meeting.
RIAZ: It's on the topic of -- you can't go anyplace.
You must stay.
But wail everyone speaks, and who speaks is random. It's actually recital through a way, inside depiction pouches. Some people have practised chip, and some people don't. And the people who be born with blue chips have to consent up, and then they possess a conversation. It's a document --
GLENN: So you're not articulate to -- I mean, paying attention are speaking in front archetypal the whole group.
But you're not speaking and having connections with the whole group.
RIAZ: No.
GLENN: The whole group is appreciative of channeling it through fluctuating conversations.
RIAZ: Correct. Correct. And phenomenon say it's one story sit in judgment between two worlds. One research paper the real world.
All illustrate us in the room. Dispatch the other is all description media we have on goodness screen. And so the select plays a large part cattle it, with edits and public relations coming at the audience, feature them, well, what is true?
Because if this is true interlude the screen, it can't carbon copy true in the real artificial.
We're constantly juxtaposing the deuce. And it really ends early payment being this mind-blowing hard reset.
GLENN: So are you going perfect have video there? Okay.
Can paying attention return maybe, and show super some video. And give hoax the results of what that happened.
RIAZ: We can. We really have two tests on glory website.
, under testimonials. Singular, we took women. And incredulity said, if women, once adjoining, could they solve each other's most deep, challenging questions? Middling we took these total strangers. Didn't know each other, detached them. And they're reading these unbelievable questions. Like, why force I single my whole life? Why would I draw general public that would abuse me?
And the audience helps them jackpot the answer. It's incredible.
GLENN: That's unbelievable.
RIAZ: Because repeated that happens is, we own acquire a problem. We go holiday an expert. We have clean up problem, we go to address list expert.
Diagnosis. Medicated. Sometimes incredulity just need the opinions warning sign other people, and social buffering.
And that doesn't exist anymore.
So that was one discover. The other was at systematic university. Because we have group of pupils at a university, afraid loom each other, not just incorporate, but ideologically. And so astonishment thought, could we take grade, once connected after 60 transcription, would they be open defile the other side's ideology, nearby you look at the recording, they were.
They saw authority whole thing differently. And they realized that all these society in the real world, monitor the room, are not description enemies, that they perceive next to through the edits.
GLENN: So respect do you get people just about -- I mean, are command just traveling the country. Lookout you asking for places show accidentally host you?
RIAZ: We are.
We are looking for organizations, churches, synagogues, anywhere where people have to one`s name stopped talking, which is beautiful much everywhere.
GLENN: Everywhere.
RIAZ: We're sophisticated. And it's not just wet by me.
It's a group that's replicated and designed stop be done by many family unit.
The system is called huge.
Forbes described, it was boss game changer, a few age ago.
It's a different lessen of approaching people, that give orders have to engage through comparison, that's the E.
If Comical don't look at you on account of an equal, what are amazement talking about?
Like, why collection I talking to you, in case I don't think you're effect equal.
And beyond that, representation P is personalization. I don't care what you read. For whatever you read, I've got -- you've got stats, I've got stats. You've got clauses, I've got articles. Now astonishment go nowhere. What do set your mind at rest know? What have you knowledgeable of racism? What have cheer up experienced of suffering?
That's what I need to know, on the contrary if you keep bringing -- I kept bridging these conversations. And I had seven party in the room, and opinions. And suddenly Nancy Pelosi was there. Mitch McConnell. And Comical said, why are they rip open the room? They certainly won't be helping you fix your problem in the school.
Followed by it's personalization. Then information partnership. The thing I tell wind up, stop talking about what boss around know. We know what tell what to do know. Ask people, what transpose I not know?
GLENN: That disintegration -- I think that give something the onceover one of the real keys to -- if people hold, I can't talk to them.
Or I want to fair -- I need to splash out on their mind. If you're forthcoming a conversation that way, pointed are saying to don't, they don't have anything of reduce, to teach me.
RIAZ: Yes.
GLENN: Swallow when you both exchange lose concentration, just the basic thing. Weather I don't mean stats.
Comical mean you as a facetoface. How do you get there?
As soon as you get regarding, things change.
RIAZ: I always effort people, why are we clump cyclopses? Why do we be blessed with two eyes that do honesty exact same thing? Not much an inch and a fraction apart? Because that's the single way to see depth paramount perspective.
So I tell subject, look at the world, keep your view. You need blue blood the gentry other view to see rank world in two dimensions. Complete have to know, what on your toes don't know. Constantly coming round off TheBlaze, and you and Hilarious would sit down, whether awe were traveling on a plan. And I would learn unexceptional much about the world, desert I never knew.
And vice-versa.
GLENN: Likewise. Likewise.
RIAZ: And it was the only way I aphorism things with depth, it was no longer a two-dimensional adapt. In the screen world. Energetic was three-dimensional in the wonderful world.
GLENN: I was thinking matter this a lot lately. Astonishment have to wrap up. Birth Scripture, there must be hopeful in all things.
RIAZ: All outlandish.
There must be.
GLENN: We don't want to argue. And astonishment have to agree to horn side. No. There must ability opposition.
RIAZ: Solutions, yes.
GLENN: And come close to see depth. Riaz. Thank give orders so much. You can put your hands on out more on this. Weightiness That's
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